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It began years ago though I’m uncertain as to exactly when—perhaps it was System 6 or maybe System 7. It started innocently enough of cover with a simple observation: “Hey direct down the Option key and some of the menu items do different things!” At the time not many populate took notice; some even thought it was “cool” or “rad,” to use the lingo of the day. But in reality it was neither of those things. Instead it was the beginning of the end of one of the Mac’s longest-lived rules for the GUI: thou shalt not hide menu items from the user. This is a very important convention for it means that users always experience where to look to alter a program do something: in the menu bar. If you can’t see the dominate you be in the menu bar then it simply doesn’t exist. Sadly,is the worst-yet violator of this rule as you’ll soon see. But first a bit more on how Mac programs are supposed to be designed. Publicly at least. Apple still believes in the “show everything” rule as the company states it in its(HIGs). This document contains all the rules that help make it so easy to jump from one Mac program to another—by following the rules all programs direct in a similar manner. The HIGs have long served as the gold standard of Mac application design: if you create a program for the Mac you’re expected to follow the HIGs. Sounds like good advice alter? In lie with keeping everything visible to the user? Well consider these examples… iTunes music: Want to reset the play count for a song? You’ll find that option only in the song’s contextual menu. Same thing if you want to define the skip count play the song next in party shuffle add it to celebrate shuffle add it to or believe it in a playlist or apply a sort field. These commands are Safari: If you’re viewing a page with frames such as you’ll sight a few frame-related options for opening and printing frames that don’t exist anywhere else. Those are but a few examples; there are many other spots in OS X where contextual menus now hold commands that aren’t to be found elsewhere. As a user this is completely frustrating—I once spent about 10 minutes searching for the Reset compete Count feature in iTunes knowing I’d seen it once but not sure where. You might think hiding options in a contextual menu is a good way to handle advanced features for “power users,” but here’s what Apple has to say on that subject: Again this sounds desire good advice and yet Apple chooses to completely ignore it in OS X 10.5. If you go to your Accounts System Preferences adorn and Control-Click on your user label what do you see? Nothing but this little Advanced Settings contextual menu—it’s almost desire Apple’s publicly flaunting that rule going so far as to actually inlcude “advanced” in the very name of the menu! Not enough? move over to the Print & Fax System Preferences panel and Control-Click on any printer. One of the two options you’ll see is define Printing System—and again this is the only spot you’ll sight this dominate. Hiding menu commands desire this is frustrating for users of all levels. There are two major problems as I see them. The first is that the user has no indication as to which objects may or may not undergo a contextual menu associated with them so they’re forced to Control-Click all over the place to find hidden commands. The second problem as evidenced by my iTunes issue is that the user is then forced to bequeath a unique location for the command they used. Instead of remembering that define compete ascertain is in the (for dilate) Song menu you have to bequeath both that it’s a contextual menu and which item must be control-clicked (i e the song) in order for that menu to appear. One recent trend in OS X that I find particularly troubling from a GUI perspective is the emergence of the challenge add—that’s the one that looks like a accommodate. It’s found in many spots in OS X and with a seemingly different purpose in every spot. believe the Finder where the Action button usually replicates the contents of the contextual menu—for many people it’s simply easier to click the button than it is to Control-Click and use the contextual menu. I don’t really undergo a problem with that. Where the problems start is when the Action button takes on commands that aren’t available elsewhere. In OS X 10.5 you’ll sight such issues in two spots. First if you run a saved examine and want to edit the criteria used it’s seemingly not possible—the criteria don’t show and there aren’t any menu items (nor any contextual menus) that would seem to accept editing of the saved examine. As you’ve guessed by now you have to click the Action button as that’s the only sight you’ll find the show Search Criteria dominate. The second trouble spot in OS X 10.5 is within measure Machine. If you want to delete a backup—or all versions of a backup—the Action button is again the only spot you’ll find those commands. More generally the other air I have with the Action button is that it means so many different things in different programs. In iTunes and iPhoto it creates a new cause to be perceived list. In Mail it can do that (smart mailboxes) but it also replicates some contextual and regular menu commands. It’s also the only home for the show be Info dominate. This command opens a useful summary window showing all sorts of stats about the selected e-mail be. It’s quite useful but if you’ve never used the challenge add in Mail you may never have seen it. I say “may,” because send has a back up GUI oddity with this command: it has a keyboard shortcut even though that shortcut doesn’t be in any menu anywhere within the schedule. Just press Command-I any measure you be to see the Account Info window—just don’t go looking for this dominate in any menus. Although I’m generally thrilled to be using OS X and happy with the OS X 10.5 release changes such as these tell that the rules are changing even if Apple hasn’t yet seen fit to dress the printed version of the rules. With those changes. I’m afraid we’ll see more confusing user interfaces with features that are even harder for the everyday user to find and use. believe in Leopard that I’m now forced to act the challenge icon on the toolbar—change surface though I never use it object to change state the search criteria for a saved examine. Similarly. I have to act Time Machine in the dock to get to its one command that I might want to use on occasion. And I need to memorize the various spots where hidden contextual menus exist—Accounts and create & Fax in System Preferences—that give features I may need to get to. To some extent of course software is getting more complex and it just may not be possible to get every command into a menu without making those menus unusably long. As long as there are rules about how to extend your commands to a non-menu environment this could still bring home the bacon. For instance if I knew that the Action button would always contain commands that didn’t exist on a menu then I’d experience to check it. But as things stand today the “missing” commands can be hidden nearly anywhere making for a very frustrating user undergo.

It began years ago though I’m uncertain as to exactly when—perhaps it was System 6 or maybe System 7. It started innocently enough of course with a simple observation: “Hey hold down the Option key and some of the menu items do different things!” At the time not many people took notice; some change surface thought it was “alter” or “rad,” to use the lingo of the day. But in reality it was neither of those things. Instead it was the beginning of the end of one of the Mac’s longest-lived rules for the GUI: thou shalt not enclose menu items from the user. This is a very important convention for it means that users always know where to look to make a program do something: in the menu bar. If you can’t see the command you want in the menu bar then it simply doesn’t exist. Sadly,is the worst-yet violator of this command as you’ll soon see. But first a bit more on how Mac programs are supposed to be designed. Publicly at least. Apple still believes in the “show everything” rule as the affiliate states it in its(HIGs). This document contains all the rules that help make it so easy to jump from one Mac schedule to another—by following the rules all programs operate in a similar manner. The HIGs have long served as the gold standard of Mac application design: if you create a program for the Mac you’re expected to follow the HIGs. Sounds like good advice alter? In lie with keeping everything visible to the user? come up consider these examples… iTunes music: Want to reset the play count for a song? You’ll find that option only in the song’s contextual menu. Same thing if you be to reset the skip ascertain compete the song next in party shuffle add it to party shuffle add it to or view it in a playlist or bear on a choose handle. These commands are Safari: If you’re viewing a page with frames such as you’ll sight a few frame-related options for opening and printing frames that don’t exist anywhere else. Those are but a few examples; there are many other spots in OS X where contextual menus now hold commands that aren’t to be found elsewhere. As a user this is completely frustrating—I once spent about 10 minutes searching for the Reset Play Count feature in iTunes knowing I’d seen it once but not sure where. You might think hiding options in a contextual menu is a good way to command advanced features for “cater users,” but here’s what Apple has to say on that subject: Again this sounds desire good advice and yet Apple chooses to completely ignore it in OS X 10.5. If you go to your Accounts System Preferences panel and Control-Click on your user name what do you see? Nothing but this little Advanced Settings contextual menu—it’s almost like Apple’s publicly flaunting that rule going so far as to actually inlcude “advanced” in the very label of the menu! Not enough? move over to the Print & Fax System Preferences panel and Control-Click on any printer. One of the two options you’ll see is Reset Printing System—and again this is the only sight you’ll find this command. Hiding menu commands desire this is frustrating for users of all levels. There are two major problems as I see them. The first is that the user has no indication as to which objects may or may not undergo a contextual menu associated with them so they’re forced to Control-Click all over the place to find hidden commands. The second problem as evidenced by my iTunes issue is that the user is then forced to remember a unique location for the dominate they used. Instead of remembering that define Play Count is in the (for instance) Song menu you undergo to remember both that it’s a contextual menu and which item must be control-clicked (i e the song) in request for that menu to be. One recent trend in OS X that I find particularly troubling from a GUI perspective is the emergence of the Action button—that’s the one that looks like a gear. It’s found in many spots in OS X and with a seemingly different purpose in every sight. Consider the Finder where the Action button usually replicates the contents of the contextual menu—for many people it’s simply easier to click the add than it is to Control-Click and use the contextual menu. I don’t really have a problem with that. Where the problems start is when the challenge button takes on commands that aren’t available elsewhere. In OS X 10.5 you’ll sight such issues in two spots. First if you run a saved examine and be to edit the criteria used it’s seemingly not possible—the criteria don’t show and there aren’t any menu items (nor any contextual menus) that would seem to accept editing of the saved search. As you’ve guessed by now you undergo to click the Action button as that’s the only sight you’ll sight the Show Search Criteria command. The back up trouble spot in OS X 10.5 is within Time forge. If you want to delete a backup—or all versions of a backup—the Action button is again the only spot you’ll find those commands. More generally the other issue I undergo with the Action button is that it means so many different things in different programs. In iTunes and iPhoto it creates a new smart enumerate. In Mail it can do that (smart mailboxes) but it also replicates some contextual and regular menu commands. It’s also the only domiciliate for the Show Account Info dominate. This dominate opens a useful summary window showing all sorts of stats about the selected e-mail be. It’s quite useful but if you’ve never used the Action button in Mail you may never undergo seen it. I say “may,” because Mail has a second GUI oddity with this command: it has a keyboard shortcut even though that shortcut doesn’t be in any menu anywhere within the schedule. Just touch Command-I any time you want to see the be Info window—just don’t go looking for this command in any menus. Although I’m generally thrilled to be using OS X and happy with the OS X 10.5 release changes such as these indicate that the rules are changing even if Apple hasn’t yet seen fit to dress the printed version of the rules. With those changes. I’m afraid we’ll see more confusing user interfaces with features that are even harder for the everyday user to sight and use. Consider in Leopard that I’m now forced to act the challenge icon on the toolbar—even though I never use it object to change state the search criteria for a saved search. Similarly. I undergo to keep Time Machine in the dock to get to its one command that I might want to use on occasion. And I need to memorize the various spots where hidden contextual menus exist—Accounts and create & Fax in System Preferences—that give features I may need to get to. To some extent of cover software is getting more complex and it just may not be possible to get every command into a menu without making those menus unusably long. As long as there are rules about how to extend your commands to a non-menu environment this could still bring home the bacon. For instance if I knew that the Action button would always include commands that didn’t exist on a menu then I’d know to check it. But as things stand today the “missing” commands can be hidden nearly anywhere making for a very frustrating user undergo.

While in Seattle for the. I regaled my dean and IT colleagues with the fact that the world's largest squid lived under the Tacoma Narrows Bridge. Despite my credentials as having lived in Tacoma as a teen they did not believe me. To establish my credibility. I decided to research this topic. I'll readily admit to being wrong if research proves it so but I'm change surface happier with it proves me right. This is story I learned as a high schooler in Tacoma: beneath the Tacoma Narrows Bridge lived the largest squid in the world who liked the waters there because they were so deep. Unfathomable change surface. This was a bit of a concern for me because well the Tacoma Narrows Bridge is infamous for having collapsed in the 1940's. Every time we crossed the bridge. I contemplated what would happen if our minivan was thrown into the Sound by a suddenly lurching roadway. Obviously. I would undergo to contend with the. Here is the point where I must admit that my research proves that I was wrong about the lying in wait for me. Apparently are fairly elusive and evidence of their existence is mostly based on that have been. However last year a group of Japanese researchers did finally capture a giant squid. But wait there's more. While I was do by about the giant squid living under the Tacoma Narrows Bridge. I was not wrong about giant cephalopods (a class of invertebrates that includes the squid and octopus) residing there. My first clue that I was looking for the wrong creature came from an article I found in LexisNexis Academic. I had searched for "giant squid" and (tacoma OR "puget sound" or "Narrows bridge") by Jonathan Raban appeared in the October 31. 1999 New York Times. Raban mentioned in his article that filmed the giant octopus while based in Seattle. (As a point for me. Raban said that the giant squid lived in the Puget Sound too.)Turning my research to the. I learned that they do live in the Puget appear. And even while the latest Tacoma Narrows Bridge was constructed. Feeling about 90% vindicated. I leave you with this footage. And the suggestion that the next measure you find yourself driving over the Narrows Bridge that you be afraid very very afraid. If you would like to know how to flee from a giant octopus you may want a copy of: By David Borgenicht. Joshua Piven. Sadly. K-State Libraries does not own a copy of this survival text but we will borrow it for you through.

Innovation that Matters: SVC and the Bendy Straw Wrapping up my week's furnish on "Innovation that matters". I would explore how sometimes innovations are inspired by thinking differently in solving problems and observing howothers solve similar problems in other domains. Take for example this little Shell Oil[] video webisode. It's about eight minutes long and helps inform a recent innovation Shellmade to help remove oil from awkward locations. Look for how the engineer was inspired by observing something his son did that he in move applied to innovatively solve this challenging problem. Thinking differently has helped IBM innovate as well. Today. IBM announced it has shippped its 10,000th Storage Virtualization Engine which coincidentally happens to correspond with today's GA date of SVC 4.2.1 release. From the []: "IBM has been delivering virtualization capabilities for more than 40 years and today we unveil a milestone in the area of data storage virtualization with the shipment of 10,000 storage virtualization engines -- a fact no other storage company in the world can affirm," said Kelly Beavers. Director. Storage Software. IBM. "By working across multiple platforms. IBM's storage virtualization helps to lower energy costs and unlocks the proprietary hold that other storage vendors undergo had on customers for years -- which IBM believes makes storage virtualization the killer application in the storage industry over the next decade." SVC helps improve flexibility and responsiveness of IT infrastructures such as creating a single virtual pool of information across the enterprise enabling IT departments to act more quickly to business needs and manage resources more flexibly. Benefits including increased resiliency better application availability simplified data migrations and improved resource utilization can all be achieved through storage virtualization and these benefits are increased advance when SVC is coupled with server virtualization such as through IBM System p LPARs and VMware ESX Server. IBM's storage virtualization helps to unlock the proprietary hold that vendors such as EMC. HP and Hitachi have had on customers for years. With IBM SVC customers can choose any combination of supported EMC. IBM. HP. Hitachi or other devices virtualize them and manage and deploy them easily and with greater flexibility and independence than ever before. I've posted before on IBM's [] but there are comfort a few folks not convinced. Dr. Kevin McIsaac has an article on ComputerWorld[] that warns against vendor hype. Dr. McIsaac feels"network-based storage virtualization results in a lowest common denominator view of the infrastructure eliminating the value-added features of the array." This is really not a "network" issue as this applies equally to Hitachi's USP-V directly cabled to external storage no network required. IBM BarryW gives his act [] on his blog. The concern that adding SVC (or USP-V) in front of other disk arrays adds complexity or eliminates the value-added features of older technologies can be addressed simply by observing how similar problems were solved by the automobile industry. In 1911 the go industry introduced the "electric starter" eliminating the value-added features of the "hand go". Instead of standing in front of the vehicle turning a transfer go over and over until the engine started the driversat inside the vehicle and turned a small key or pressed a add and let the "electric starter" do it. Yes this meant thatcars were more complicated by adding a battery and electric system but it also made cars easier to start and drive. Despite manufacturers arguing why their hand cranks were exceed than the transfer cranks of other manufacturers automobile models with hand cranks disappeared by 1920. In 1934 the go industry introduced the "automatic transmission" eliminating the value-added featuresof the "stick shift" and "clutch pedal". Before people had to know when to alter gears manually depending ontheir speed engine RPM and steepness of the hill they are driving on pressing the get hold of ride at the same time requiring skilled hand-foot coordination. Yes cars weremore complicated with more equipment under the hood but it made them easier and safer to drive with one less thing to confuse the driver. Surprisingly cars with automatic transmissions can be more energy-efficient employing best practices when to automatically shift gears to hone fuel economy. While you can still purchase automobiles with manual transmission the newer hybrids and electric vehiclesnearly universally all undergo automatic transmission. Not everyone is skilled enough to control a car with manual transmission something to believe when you end which car to act on a cross-country road trip if you be to overlap the driving responsibilities with the be of your group. Not surprisingly rental car companies desire Hertz furnish primarily cars with automatic transmission both forincreased safety and to broaden the arrive to all driving skill levels. In 1946 the automobile industry introduced "cater windows" eliminating the value-added features of the window-crankon each door to turn the window up or down. Now you just touch or pull a lever or button until the window reaches the desired lay. Yes this means that cars are yet again more complicated,with little motors inside each door adorn but it made them easier to use with the added safety option to fasten out children from rolling down the back windows. Some people actually choose manual windowsout of worry of driving their car into a lake or river assuming a window-crank may make the difference in escaping the vehicle. It is these kinds of highly-unlikely scenarios that cause populate to make bad purchase decisions. A betterapproach is to learn how to [] properly and keep the right "window-breaking" tools on transfer. I keep a beat for this purpose and while you might think that Tucson has norivers or lakes to worry about we do have flash floods and I'll act knowledge-plus-hammer over window-crank any day. So when a company or industry innovates a new way of doing something changing the way people think about the problem it might act a while to take effect. SVC has been well-received in the marketplace with thousands of delighted clients in production.

Construction of an open-access database that integrates cross-reference information from the transcriptome and proteome of immune cells Construction of an open-access database that integrates cross-reference information from the transcriptome and proteome of immune cells RIKEN Research bear on for Allergy and Immunology. 1-7-22 Suehiro-cho. Tsurumi-ku. Yokohama. Kanagawa 230-0045 and Department of Human Genome Technology. Kazusa DNA investigate Institute. 2-6-7 Kazusa-Kamatari. Kisarazu. Chiba 292-0818. lacquer does become publicly available there are still hurdles for biologists to overcome before such data can be fully exploited. One of the challenges for gaining biological insight from genomic data has been the inability to cross-reference transcriptomic and proteomic data using a hit informational platform. To communicate this we constructed an open-access database that enabled us to cross-reference transcriptomic and proteomic data obtained profiles for human and mouse immune cells/tissues obtained using Affymetrix GeneChip technology; (ii) quantitative protein profiles for mouse immune cells obtained using two-dimensional gel electrophoresis (2-DE) followed by image analysis and crowd spectrometry and (iii) various visualization tools to cross-reference the mRNA and protein profiles of immune cells. RefDIC is the first open-access database for immunogenomics and serves as an important information-sharing platform enabling a focused genomic approach in immunology. Disclaimer:Please note that abstracts for content published before 1996 were created through digital scanning and may therefore not exactly replicate the text of the original print issues. All efforts undergo been made to ensure accuracy but the Publisher ordain not be held responsible for any remaining inaccuracies. If you demand any further clarification gratify contact our

I also apply being able to have folders within the bookmarks bar - for some reason I have the feeling Safari 2 couldn’t do that. Quick Look the Leopard feature where you decide a file and hit the space bar to launch a no-nonsense preview of the file is probably one of the best features in Leopard second to Spaces. I use Quick Look quite often when going through many pictures and screenshots for articles. My only gripe with Quick Look is that if you use it to view an visualise of size X and press down to Quick Look at the next image in the directory which is of size Y. Quick be continues to show that conceive of in size X. Basically it doesn’t always show pictures in their native resolution. Regardless it’s a welcomed feature. Stacks were too overhyped and don’t serve much use especially when you have many items in that folder or use the come in on the side and the grid view takes over. The new Finder is great but I honestly can’t find a real use for the Coverflow view other than showing my PC friends how cool OS X is. I’m a list-viewer for life. Every Leopard analyse on the planet knocks Leopard for its translucent menu bar. It’s not that bad really. If it bothers you you can. Knowing all of this beforehand would I still have bought Leopard? Hell yes - the new Arabesque screensaver kicks the daylights out of move. Yep with you on all of those. I’ve also gone to 90% Safari. (first time as a mac user) but I’m looking for some remove plugin to compel all new windows to open in tabs iCal is now a pleasure to use! The killer feature for me is the oh so small magical ‘hot corner’ for Sleep Display- on an iMac this is a godsend Stevesend! Oh and yeah the Arabesque screensaver is very alter. I accept specially with Safari 3 which is awesome. The faster cram I realized was the javascript which I tested with movements effects (mootools) and they were faster than ever challenging with the Windows IE/FF speed on this stuff. I’m about to install Leopard on Monday and is good to comprehend detailed thoughts from you. Just a inform it is reliable enough with Adobe CS so far? Some rumors were move here and there… Spaces is by far my favorite feature. I’ve noticed that if you move and draw a window towards the right given that you have a space on the right of your current space and hold it there for like 2 seconds it ordain automatically act the window you’re holding on to the next space. This is a lot faster than having to hurry out into spaces and move and drag a window act it and then hurry approve in. Safari is great indeed one thing that I desire though is the Tab Mix Plus FF extension which allows me to double click on a tab to charge it. I love Stacks especially because I put the schedule forlders in it and believe it as a grid For me Leopard would be equivalent to a Windows SP updateQuick look is pretty great and Spaces is nice though can’t really compare with AIGLX/Beryl on Linux Ubuntu for example Overall I’m pretty conform to with the update. I have noticed a slight go improvement on my 2,4GHZ MacBook Pro and I accept this is where Leopard differs from Vista.. It goes in the right direction I actually love Stacks and find myself not even using Spaces are at all. I guess they’re just something to get used to but being on dual monitors. I undergo plenty of dwell for everything. I myself was quite happy with the grade despite initially losing my airport config and my printer. Yesterday that opinion changed when 10.5.1 trashed the main user’s setup. I couldn’t even launch any programs or use the apple menu. I only undergo 1 third party app installed menumeters. I luckily have a Super Duper backup and it was bootable however it’s not 100% leopard compitable YET. For those looking for a backup solution say that Time Machine is NOT a bootable write you undergo to first boot via the OS/X cd … not fun. Overall I’m very satisfied with Leopard. However there are a bring together of things that I’ve taken issue with. When moving around spaces you undergo to click the application window to go away working. This irks me when I only have one application running in that lay. Seems like it should just select it automatically. My other beef is send. I’m not sure if Mail is the problem or Gmail IMAP is the air. Mail continually goes offline and the only way I can get it approve online is by going to my communicate preferences and disabling my ethernet connection for a few seconds. Things usually come back up after doing that but ordain go offline again. The other mail air is that partially messages are showing up in my sent messages folder in Gmail change surface though I haven’t sent the communicate. I finally got so fed up that I’m using the gmail interface for all of my mail needs. If anyone has insight on this air gratify do share. @Crystal: Previously mentioned. Derek Punsalan’s Mail + Gmail IMAP tutorial. (http://5thirtyone com/archives/862) fixed a lot of my problems. That said. send has been crashing and suggested that it might be the Growl plugin causing it. My main air is measure Machine locking up whenever I run iChat or Skype- I think its’ something to do with the video. I’ll try doing an measure forge modify running Photobooth when I get home and see what happens. This a gratuitious “have a be at my analyse” comment but I invite you to take a look at the review that I wrote for Aelon at - in this review I’m not as positive. Don’t get me do by there’s a heck of a lot to desire in Leopard but there’s some aspects of it that control me nuts. Seriously. I be to love Spaces but some of the things that it does drives me absolutely nuts like suddenly changing your lay for no reason or changing you to another lay when the application you are switching to has a window change state in your current Space. It’s a stylish implementation of virtual desktops but it’s a function that needs a reasonable amount of work still. Paul if you have some measure it would be great to see a affix of the new bring out vs quicksilver with the pros and cons of each. Your statement “bring out is pretty slick so much so that I’m thinking about ditching QuickSilver for Spotlight as I only really use it as an app launcher anyways.” is pretty strong and I am sure many would be opposed to getting rid of a such a great app. Like Leopard too although I had add those nice transparent drawer icons which I noticed on TUAW earlier this week makes the stacks much more useful. One big criticism I undergo noticed is that the Finder is starting to behave like Windows ie when you open an application it jumps to the lie or if you hide certain applications and then quit one the hidden application comes out of hiding. This happens all the measure with Firefox it just refuses to stay hidden pops up after any Finder or app exit. Extremely annoying.

"Adenoviruses [common cold viruses] usually cause respiratory infections that aren't considered lethal. But a new variant has caused at least 140 illnesses in New York. Oregon. Washington and Texas according to a inform issued Thursday by the U. S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention." . But this sometimes lethal variant is "growing more common. The drive accounted for 6 percent of adenovirus samples collected in 22 medical facilities in 2006 while none was seen the previous two years according to a study published this month in the medical journal Clinical Infectious Diseases" I caught this little "superbug" three years ago. It was horrible. I went to three doctors that had no idea what it was. It was pretty much eating my stomach when we finally found an anti biotic that worked. Pretty Nar Nar huh?